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([personal profile] dougo Dec. 13th, 2006 01:53 pm)
The Tower Records chain is going out of business, and the store near where I work has been having progressively better sales over the last month or so. A couple weeks ago everything was 40% off. Their typical list price for new CDs is $18.99 (no wonder they went bust!) so that means most of their CDs were still more than $10, but they also had a lot of stuff for less than that, so I binged and picked up 20 CDs that were under $10 each, plus 5 DVDs for under $15 each.

I stopped in again on the way to work today: every CD is now 70% off. I started at the top of the alphabet, and by the time I got to E I had 15 CDs averaging less than $5 each. It's hard to hold 15 CDs and still keep flipping through the bins, so I quit there and cashed out. But I'm planning to go back later this afternoon; maybe I'll see if they have shopping baskets.

It's hard to pass up a $5 CD. So far I've stayed in the comfort zone of picking up CDs from artists I'm familiar with (Daniel Ash, Built to Spill, The Church, Deerhoof, Earth), but for $5 it's tempting to just start buying stuff that I've heard of but don't really know much about (they had a ton of stuff by the Coachwhips, for example—anyone know them?). If it gets any cheaper I might just start buying anything that looks interesting, and sell the duds at a used CD store later. Or I might start buying stuff I already have and like, to give to friends.

Is there a limit to how many CDs I can (or should) buy? Say there are 10,000 CDs in the world that I want enough that I would be willing to buy any one of them for $5. If I had the opportunity to buy them all for $50,000, shouldn't I take it? I guess at some point there is an issue of marginal value: the 10,000th CD isn't worth as much as the first CD, just because I may not ever get around to listening to it. Plus there's all the extra shelving I would need, and the time spent copying it all to my hard disk. Or even the time spent removing those annoying security stickers! But how about 1,000? Or even 100? Where should I stop?

From: [identity profile] mshonle.livejournal.com

Stop at 723


To take off the stickers I like to unhinge the jewel case at the bottom, flip it up, and that gives me perfect access to take off the sticker. Then, I just re-hindge the jewel case.

But you really should look at the opportunity cost: if buying another set of CDs means you can't buy, say, a TV or a Wii that you really wanted, then don't buy the CDs and buy the Wii instead. You might kick yourself for having "missed" an opportunity to get some CDs on the cheap, but after 723 CDs you'll feel satisfied.

From: [identity profile] dougo.livejournal.com


I do that sometimes, but it feels like cheating, and it doesn't always work either (in terms of getting the whole thing off cleanly in one go). I have a ton of empty jewel cases, though, so I probably shouldn't be worried about the risk of breakage.

From: [identity profile] dougo.livejournal.com


In theory I'm saving up for a down payment on a house. But I'm not likely to actually have the opportunity to spend $50,000 on CDs, so it doesn't feel like that kind of opportunity cost.

From: [identity profile] mshonle.livejournal.com


What savings vehicle are you using for your down-payment? (Out of curiosity.)

From: [identity profile] dougo.livejournal.com


Right now, just my interest checking account. I haven't actually started really saving yet, though (my balance is currently below $1k). Since I paid off my credit cards this summer, I've been putting 20% of my salary into 401k. I may raise that to the maximum (60%?) next year and once I hit the year cap start moving the extra into CDs or something. (The other kind of CDs...)

From: [identity profile] mshonle.livejournal.com


The maximum you can contribute is $15k/yr, so likely you are already very close to that limit.

A money market account or a bond fund is something else you can consider too. Sigh. I miss having a disposable income.

From: [identity profile] mshonle.livejournal.com


Well, given that you've been putting in 20% of your pre-tax income into your 401k, and that the yearly limit is $15k, I imagine your income is "close" to $75k, meaning probably $67k-80k (pre tax). If your company offers the Roth 401k you should consider that too.

From: [identity profile] dougo.livejournal.com


I've only been doing it since this summer. Before that I was only maxing out the 100% matching contributions (4%).

From: [identity profile] mshonle.livejournal.com


Ah, so the rate you're saving at now you won't even be able to next year? Anyway, after the 401k contribution limit is reached you can still put into an IRA. After that, your best tax shelter bet is an annuity, but you're probably better off saving for that downpayment, even before maxing out the IRA contributions.

From: [identity profile] perci.livejournal.com

Re: Stop at 723


Do you know the magic number of CD's for everyone? How many do I need to own to feel satisfied? Will I then feel satisfied in general, or will I still need to collect more miniature penknives, see a play at the Globe in London, and buy a pre-1970 442?

From: [identity profile] mshonle.livejournal.com

Re: Stop at 723


I don't know you as well as I know Doug, so I'm going to have to say your magic number is in the range of 300-600.

From: [identity profile] dougo.livejournal.com


By the way, I already own about 1500 CDs. Are you saying I should sell 777 of them?

From: [identity profile] mshonle.livejournal.com


I already know about your large collection. You asked when you should stop buying more.

From: [identity profile] jtemperance.livejournal.com

Coachwhips


Yeah, the Coachwhips are fun, they're from around here. Hard charging straightforward thrash rock. They're worth checking out.

From: [identity profile] jtemperance.livejournal.com


The only one I have is the most recent one, Double Death. I like that one a lot. Having seen them live a bunch of times, I'm guessing it's hard to go wrong. Their approach hasn't really changed much over time.

From: [identity profile] greyaenigma.livejournal.com


Buy 999. One thousand would simply be too many.

From: [identity profile] bitjuggler.livejournal.com

Listening to 10k CDs


I think it's only with the advent of mp3s and media servers that you'll actually have the possibility of listening to 10000 CDs; otherwise most of them are likely to end up stored somewhere beyond your gumption factor to get at when you feel like listening to something. So, to descend into math for a second: 1 CD as a decent mp3 tends to be about 65MB. * 10k cds = 650k MB = 650 GB. Which, while a lot of music, is well under the $1k range to provide storage for. So: go for it! And get ripping!
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